states so they," ok, i am going to be on this guys decide," it stiffens the spine -- i am going to be on this guy's side." when the tony blair government was elected in lint -- in england, the world should not act like this, but it does -- i had been a labour party guy, and some of these people were friends of mine. there was someone i had been involved with, and we were both involved in the campaign for elected moral reform. we knew each other from that. and he became really passionate. he came to the foreign office. he said, "we are going to get it fixed. leave it to me." the support of that and the administration is what brought them to the negotiating table and got it solved. tavis: how do you fix a fatwa? >> some broad think, where anybody can get outraged and carry it out. actually, in all of those years, the only threat to me and to everyone else was the threat from the iranian state. that is not to say it was not a dangerous threat. persons being dispatched by the iranian state. there was never any sense of any other danger. nobody else ever got involved. to standing down thos